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Post by TGS Indy on Nov 5, 2013 21:09:06 GMT -5
*taken from Yahoo! Games*
The 5 Best Reasons For Buying The PS4 Instead Of An Xbox One................
Power: As the controversy over the resolution of Call of Duty: Ghosts proves, there are some important hardware differences between the Xbox One and the PS4. The game runs at 1080p native on the Ps4, and 720 on the Xbox One — some are saying that it’s definitive evidence that Sony's (SNE -1.35%) system has a power edge on the Xbox One, as we’ve suspected for some time. Developers have said similar things to websites like Kotaku, though they’re less confident about exactly what it all means.
We can argue all we want about what difference this will actually make when it comes to way games look on our new systems. But when it comes right down to it, Sony appears to be the better bet for pure hardware capability, so why not go with that? It’s probably not the wrong decision.
Exclusives: Sony has some of the best studios in the biz producing game exclusively for its platforms, so if you want to see what shops like Quantic Dream or Media Molecule are cooking up, you’ll need a PS4. While Sony does have its shooters, as a whole its exclusive lineup offers games that are slightly more offbeat than those from most AAA developers. Littlebigplanet is quirky, charming and wonderful. It’s the kind of game that gives Sony platforms their unique flavor.
Naughty Dog alone could warrant its own bullet. You can only play Uncharted on Sony hardware, which for some is reason enough.
Controller: The Dualshock 4 is the most drastic redesign of the Playstation controller since Sony got the idea to put analog sticks on it. The triggers are easier to use and rest your fingers on, there’s a share button for easy access to social features, and the clickable touch screen is front and center for a whole range of different controls. It still maintains the essential Dualshock design to avoid alienating long-term fans, but it’s a vastly more refined and easier to use version.
I used one at E3, and it’s miles ahead of the Dualshock 3. We’ll see how that sensor bar eventually gets implemented, but right now the touchscreen is a nice way to increase functionality without adding a hundred extra buttons to some limited real estate. It’s also bound to be useful on non-traditional games, which the PS4 should have in spades. And it works with Macs.
Indies: Microsoft MSFT +1.94% may be starting up an indie program, but it’s a little late to the party. Sony has been actively fostering and improving the development process for indie developers for years, and the proof is in the pudding. PS3 gave us games like Flower, The Unfinished Swan, and Journey, and that console was considerably harder to develop for. The PS4 was built for easy development and publishing from the ground up, meaning that we should be getting a lot of weird, wonderful, and beautiful games from small teams. We know we’re getting Jonathan Blow’s The Witness, Octodad: Dadliest Catch, Rime, Transitor, and plenty of others.
Indies may not pull the same kind of numbers as AAA titles, but they tend to push the envelope in a way that big studios just can’t afford to. They can take risks, they can make strange games, and they can make games where you don’t shoot people. They also fill in the gaps between major release seasons, giving you more ways to use your console than ever before.
Price: This one is a no-brainer. If you just want to play games and don’t want to get bogged down in specs, motion controls, or all those other features you might wonder about, the PS4 will let you do that for $100 less. In an ecosystem where the two machines have started to look very similar, this may be Sony’s first, last, and most important advantage. The price point is bound to push more than a few holiday shoppers towards Sony’s machine.
There are other reasons why Sony’s machine is the right choice when it comes out in eleven days, but these are what I see as the best ones. Feel free to add more.
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Post by TGS Indy on Nov 5, 2013 21:11:47 GMT -5
*taken from Yahoo! Games*
The 5 Best Reasons For Buying The Xbox One Instead Of A PS4.............................
Cloud: Sony (SNE -1.35%) may have bought Gaikai, but Microsoft (MSFT +1.94%) is Microsoft. As this generation continues, we’re going to see the true benefits of having the resources of one of the largest tech companies in the world backing your console. “Project Mountain” is a $700 million data center built for Xbox One and Office 365, and more games will take advantage of that computing power as time goes on. In the early days, expect to see the full benefits of Microsoft’s cloud services in games like Titanfall.
A lot of gamers would argue that Xbox Live was the more reliable multiplayer service in the last generation, so Sony’s got some catching up to do. The fact that PSN is now a paid service suggest that it’s working on it, but for right now I’d bank on Xbox Live for better matchmaking and more reliable multiplayer.
Kinect: The Kinect never quite found its footing on the Xbox 360, but Microsoft believes in this technology. It’s a fully-featured depth sensing camera that, in my limited time with it so far, appears to be a huge improvement over the previous generation. If you want to do P90x with your Xbox, you can do that. If you want to use dragon shouts by actually shouting or command your squad with your voice, you can do that too. And I’ve got a feeling that the best uses of the Kinect are yet to come. It’s odd, new, and still brimming with potential. Why not take a chance on the future?
Next-gen shouldn’t just be about playing the same old games with fancy new graphics. This is hardware that can really change the way we interact with games, and that’s worth exploring.
Controller: The Dualshock 4 is a big improvement over the Dualshock 3, but the Xbox controller is still a beautiful little piece of industrial design. The Xbox One controller doesn’t fix what isn’t broken, but it builds on the now classic design in every way. Offset analog sticks remain a great way to game, and rumbling triggers actually make the experience feel different. It’s also better balanced, and has an improved d-pad. We’ve come a long way since the dinner plates.
For shooter fans especially — a giant chunk of the gaming public — the Xbox controller design is tested, successful, and worth sticking with. In an industry dominated by cross-platform titles, some of the biggest differences between these two consoles are not on the screen, but in your hand. Controller preference is a bigger deal than it appears.
Exclusives: Software sells hardware. Titanfall is probably the next-gen game that has generated more buzz than any other, and it’s not coming to PS4. On day one we get Lococycle, Ryse, Dead Rising, Forza, Fighter Within and Crimson Dragon. Quantity-wise, that’s a little more to play with than on the PS4. In the future, I’m very curious to see what Project Spark can bring to the table — it looks something like Microsoft’s answer to Littlebigplanet.
On top of that, Halo fans around the world have likely already made their decision based on that franchise alone. Exclusives come down to a matter of taste, and Sony performed very well towards the end of last generation. This, however, is a whole new ball game, and Microsoft is coming out swinging.
Entertainment: Much to the chagrin of gamers everywhere, Microsoft chose to focus on TV and entertainment options in its Xbox One reveal rather than games. But by now, we know that the system has games and, exclusives aside, they’re a lot of the same games the PS4 has. A wealth of entertainment options, complete with Kinect controls, represent a valuable expansion to the capabilities that Microsoft slowly added to the Xbox 360 over the course of the previous generation. Microsoft’s partnerships with the likes of Time Warner Cable TWC -2.58%, Verizon Fios, Comcast CMCSA -0.71% Xfinity and the NFL make this a very attractive option to gamers with cable. Plus, a Halo series produced by Spielberg is hard to argue with.
Add in MP3 support, DLNA streaming and audio CDs, and Xbox One can handily serve as an entertainment hub for the whole living room. I play games as much as anyone, but I still use my console for a whole lot of other things. It’s worth making those things a priority as well.
There are more reasons to like the Xbox One, and other reasons to dislike it (again, covered in the PS4 post). An honorable mention goes to the little noise the Xbox makes when you get an achievement.
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Post by TGSBrotherDeath on Nov 26, 2013 22:11:35 GMT -5
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Post by Daytight on Dec 22, 2013 14:45:47 GMT -5
Despite all the negative pub for Forza, I think I may cave in the next couple of days and get an Xbox. There's just not another decent racing option out there!
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Post by TGS Hoss360 on Dec 24, 2013 16:08:35 GMT -5
Despite all the negative pub for Forza, I think I may cave in the next couple of days and get an Xbox. There's just not another decent racing option out there! let me know if you want one, i'll sell you an unopened day one edition... i'd have to ship it to you, but i'll cover shipping + tax... $500 even i bought one, i also won one from dew... not trying to make a killing, just trying to break almost even
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Post by Daytight on Dec 26, 2013 15:33:58 GMT -5
Crap Hoss, saw this too late. Just bought one Christmas Eve. Why aren't you posting on fm.net any more? I was worried about you.
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Post by TGS Hoss360 on Dec 26, 2013 19:54:42 GMT -5
i post there... but most of my posts are edits
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Post by Daytight on Jan 3, 2014 16:50:27 GMT -5
I realize everybody and their brother has done a comparison of the two systems by now, and I'm sure a bunch of the folks around here have both systems as well, but I thought I'd post my observations now that I've had some time with both as well. Below are my early impressions.
I find both systems to be showing a ton of potential, and yet both systems are dramatically flawed. I think most if not all issues with be addressed with firmware updates, and I hope that comes soon.
First up, the PS4. It's a lean, mean, gaming machine. For the most part, it does what it's supposed to, without and real complaints, but just as importantly, without any real excitement either. The controller is a huge leap forward, although I challenge the common opinion that it's any better than the One or 360's controller. It's as good in my opinion, but not better. The speaker in the controller does have some interesting potential...I have to admit it made me jump a bit the first time it spoke to me during a game of Resogun. The operating system is a different story. Although I usually find what I'm looking for, I find it to be confusing, and if anything a step back from the basic but functional cross bar (only) menu of the PS3. Given all of the PR stuff Sony put out there about making the system more user friendly, I have to say I'm disappointed. After a few early update hiccups, the system has been fairly stable. The only major "glitch" bothering me ties to Netflix streaming. (More on Netflix in the Xbox notes later.) For some reason, the Netflix app for the PS4 does not currently support surround sound via HDMI. (I can't vouch for optical out.) The app indicates many movies offer 5.1, but the unit only outputs 2.0 stereo, and when the info box is accessed during a movie, the only option to select is stereo. That's silly on a hardware/app combo released in late 2013. Finally, the party chat is a joke. I shouldn't have to navigate multiple windows to connect to a party of friends. Overall, I'd rate the PS4 a 5 out of 10 at this point.
Now on to the XBOX One. I finally gave in to the call of Forza on Christmas eve, and now have a week or so of experience with the XBOX. There has been a lot of complaints about the new Windows 8 based OS, but for me it's still a win for Microsoft. I'm still not convinced it's quite as good as the 360, but it's close. The controller is great, but as noted above I'd call it a tie with the Sony controller. Now, on to the glitches, and HOLY COW there are plenty of them. I'm running my cable box through the One, and until I told the Xbox not to enter sleep mode, I would be greeted with a constant cycle a few seconds of cable picture, then a freeze. The only fix is a full power cycle which as best I can tell requires me to hold the power button on the front of the Xbox for about ten seconds. That causes about a thirty second reboot time. Not fun. Also, my initial save of Forza was causing my Xbox to turn off completely when attempting to access the game. Deleting the save and restarting my career fixed this, but still pretty annoying. Back to Netflix, the Xbox requires me to set a beta surround sound mode, but at least there IS surround sound. Having said that, I find consistently poor picture quality when compared to the PS4. I don't believe it's a network issue, as my connection is reliably between 25-33 megs down. So, I have two next-gen consoles, and neither can properly stream Netflix. Not good. Finally, no voice messages? Really? Please tell me Microsoft is joking. That's a hilarious oversight.
I've spent a lot of words trashing the Xbox due to the half-baked nature of it, but the interesting thing is if I had to get rid of one or the other today, the PS4 would be finding a new home. Microsoft did a laughably bad job of describing why I should want an Xbox, but the reality is they (Microsoft) reached really high with this system. I love that I can now seamlessly switch from games to TV and back. I love that I can now control my cable box with my controller, my phone, or even my voice. I made fun of the mandatory Connect hardware, and the cost associated, but it seems that for me Microsoft really did know better than I did exactly what I wanted. I still don't have any use for the camera, but we shall see if that changes as well. The voice commands are simply wonderful, and they work better than I had any hope they would. It's also fun to see others reactions to the voice control as well. Most seem to find it funny at first, but quickly get wide eyed at just how seamlessly it all comes together.
To sum it all up, the PS4 basically delivers what it said it would, but the XBox One is delivering much more than I ever imagined. I only hope both fix the current limitations via updates, and I'm confident they will.
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Post by TGS Indy on Jan 10, 2014 17:07:00 GMT -5
Hey Daytight! Nice to see you got the XB1 and Forza. Gonna be painting anything in the future?
As for your reviews on both systems..........THANK YOU! I didnt think that you were biased between the two consoles, neither am I (even though I havent owned a PS since the PS2) so it was nice to see the honest pros and cons of each. I agree with you too. Even though I have yet to experience the PS4, Microsoft has the edge because it feels more "next-gen" than the PS4 (from what my local friends have told me) I LOVE LOVE LOVE the voice commands through connect. It really is fun when your friends are like WTF?! The $499 price tag still scares some people though, and I dont think its gonna be lowered any time soon. I just wish all these PS fanboys would stop and try the XB1 because they would be really impressed with it just like you were.
Eventually I will get a PS4, not sure when, but eventually. Its just that I know that the games I have for the XB1 will keep me plenty busy for awhile so Im in no hurry for the PS4.
Like you said, along with the PS4, Microsoft needs to fix some stuff. But thats understandable for a new console at launch....you know?
Anyways......hope to see you on the track!
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Post by Daytight on Jan 11, 2014 21:04:04 GMT -5
Probably will be doing some painting soon! I miss you guys.
My Xbox is fubared right now due to a glitch causing a complete power off shutdown when I try to load Forza. I've tried every reset and reinstall, but no dice. No biggie, as electronics can always fail. I'm swapping it at GameStop tomorrow.
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